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Nevyn Auscent
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Posted - 2015.09.24 06:59:37 -
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Tiberius Heth wrote:
Given that they're normally not available I'd say that "new" means "newly released", so the old ships re-released.
If that was the case they wouldn't be releasing the statistics, since the statistics already exist and can be looked up in game.
So the tweet makes no sense unless they are actually making entirely new ships. |
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Posted - 2015.09.24 07:33:30 -
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Other question, and I believe this came up during the Somer saga also, but were the Gold & Silver Magnates released as Special edition or limited. And I mean referencing the release announcement here or an authoritative source.
Not simply someone 'remembering' since memory is a funny thing.
Special edition & Limited edition are different things and Special edition is not limited in number. |
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Posted - 2015.09.24 22:10:53 -
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Entity wrote:After the stratios ER skin bs I'm not the slightest bit surprised they pull a d-move like this, honestly.
You mean the SPECIAL edition Stratios ER right......
You of all people should know the difference between limited and special. |
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Posted - 2015.09.25 00:36:51 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:
To be fair it's just the colors. No matter how many skins you inject you won't ever have the ship itself anyways. I mean, I understand uniques being re-released making people mad, but going beyond that to say that nothing can even look like it even if it's still clearly not the same is a bit much.
My point is that a lot of these are not 'uniques'.
Limited edition = only X of it ever made.
Special edition = special release, but no specific number cap.
A lot of the collectors edition ships are actually Special edition, and people have just assumed that no more will ever be released. CCP have always said that Special edition ships may be re-released and collectors buy at their own risk.
Exactly which the Gold & Silver Magnates were released as I don't know, but if it wasn't specified at the time then it's Special.
And I have a vague recollection of them saying so at the Somer time that they were but that they would do something else as it wasn't an appropriate venue, but I'm not searching that thread for the reference myself, so don't take that as a given. |
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Posted - 2015.09.25 01:50:54 -
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Entity wrote:Part of the problem is we live in a digital world where items re-released now are exactly identical to the "vintage" ones of 12 years ago.
You can argue in favor or against re-release all you want, the fact remains that the original ships will lose their "vintage" badge, as there is no way to distinguish a re-issue from the originally released ones.
This matters to collectors regardless of whether they have an interest in their sale value or not.
In real life this would be less of a problem as it's usually obvious which is the vintage article and which is the re-issue (like with Dinky Toys, which offers reissues of their classic toys)
Yes they will lose their 'vintage' badge.
And this is not a problem provided they were a special release, as opposed to a limited release.
Both are 'unique' items, but they have different rules surrounding them and EVE players are very prone to confusing the two and then wondering why CCP has done something. |
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Posted - 2015.09.27 04:32:29 -
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Boom Boom Longtime wrote:Chribba wrote:As I said in Falcon's Championship thread, they should not do this.
EVE history is very important imo, and introducing them again will make such history redundant, your loss will be neglected by new (and old) pilots as the ships are "now".
Reskin a Golden Punisher or similar instead. But leave the originals alone, it died, and that made a great addition to EVE history, CCP should keep it that way.
/c The point Chribba makes is a prudent one.
Only if you believe that history is lessened by the same prize being given out for the same tournament.
In my case I believe this actually enhances EVE History, by making it more relevant and causing players to care more about the Tournament ships. They will still be wildly rare so any losses of them will be worthy of note.
The only relevant question is Limited vs Special, and since CCP didn't specifically specify limited at the time in an official communication the default is always special, so CCP are not going 'against their word' in this matter, no matter what people might cry about. |
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